Honda's 'toy box' of technology 3-year rollout seeks industry leadership in fuel economy

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Honda Seeking Industry Leadership in Fuel Economy


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Honda Motor Co., fighting to restore its reputation for innovation, is poised to open a "toy box" of new technologies and products that will make it the industry leader in fuel efficiency, the company's top car engineer says. The coming three-year blitz -- based on the company's new range of "Earth Dreams" engines, transmissions and hybrid systems -- will boost the average fuel economy of its fleet 10 percent, says Yasuhisa Arai, senior managing officer at Honda R&D Co.

"It's going to be like a bottomless toy box, pulling out something new one after another," Arai told Automotive News at Honda's global technical center north of Tokyo. He laid out the time frame for launching the technologies on several vehicles, starting with the redesigned Accord, which goes on sale this autumn.

"We've been in the top group for fuel efficiency for some time. And we want to break out of that group and lead the industry through the innovation of Earth Dreams," Arai said. It remains to be seen, though, if Earth Dreams is truly revolutionary or just evolutionary. "The technology itself is almost identical to the similar direction of everyone else. Almost everyone has direct-injection engines these days," CFO Fumihiko Ike concedes.

The Earth Dreams suite of technologies, unveiled last November, represents the biggest overhaul of Honda's drivetrain since its introduction of VTEC variable-valve timing in the late 1980s. The biggest step for Earth Dreams is the widespread application of direct injection across the company's gasoline engine lineup. Honda is a neophyte to this fuel-saving technology, having briefly employed it in only one nameplate with a gasoline engine.

The previous-generation Honda Stream, a Japan-market compact wagon, got the technology in 2004-06. Honda now wants to load it on nearly every car. Honda needs the technology to keep pace with rivals such as Hyundai, Ford and Nissan, which are boosting fuel economy through greater use of direct injection, turbocharging, six-speed automatic transmissions and continuously variable transmissions.

A new hybrid system, also part of the Earth Dreams package, aims to steal customers from Toyota Motor Corp.'s extensive lineup of hybrids. Honda's stated goal is to achieve "top-of-industry" fuel efficiency in every vehicle category in three years. But it's a fuzzy target with plenty of wiggle room.

Arai hedges his bets on the Fit small car by suggesting that it really sits in a category of its own because of its class-leading interior space. While he says becoming the clear leader in mid-sized sedans will be difficult, he sidesteps questions about how close Honda already is to top status in any segment.

Earth Dreams is part of a trend in branding powertrains. It follows the likes of Mazda Motor Corp.'s Skyactiv powertrain technologies and Ford Motor Co.'s EcoBoost lineup. "In terms of engine technology, it's not such a big breakthrough," says Toru Hatano, a powertrain specialist at IHS Automotive in Tokyo. But the new drivetrains "are important for Honda to improve fuel economy, especially with that expected to be a key selling point for the next-generation Accord." Hatano would have liked to see more improvement in continuous variable valve timing or downsizing to eke out further mpg gains.

'Building block'
Honda President Takanobu Ito says the technology is not as dramatically innovative as the CVCC engine, which met emissions standards without using a catalytic converter, or the VTEC project. But he says its impact on the company will be similar. Arai says his mission was even wider in scope than those high-profile technological achievements. "This is a very important building block for the next generation of vehicles," Arai says. "This is revolutionary in the sense that we are renovating many engine series in one go."

The Earth Dreams lineup includes four new gasoline engines with direct injection and double-overhead cams; a turbocharged diesel engine; three redesigned CVTs; and two new gasoline-electric hybrid powertrains for mid-sized cars. Earth Dreams technology will debut in the United States in the 2.4- and 3.5-liter fuel-injected engines offered in the redesigned Accord sedan arriving this fall. That car also will get the Earth Dreams two-motor plug-in hybrid system in the winter. The rest of the engines will be rolled out over the next three years as vehicles are redesigned or get a midcycle restyling.


Civic variable timing
One question is when the Civic will get an Earth Dreams upgrade. Arai says Honda wants to put a new engine into the current-generation Civic, which debuted last year, but nothing has been decided. It's likely too late to add it this year, he says.

"That's one of the most important cars for us," Arai said. "If we tried to put it in this year, probably we would not make it in time. But we are in the process of preparing for it so that we will never, ever lose with this car."

Honda is also debating whether to equip future Civic hybrids with the new two-motor system that will debut this winter on the Accord, Arai said. The current Civic hybrid uses the motor-assist hybrid system seen in the Insight and CR-Z hybrids, which has received lackluster reviews. The new hybrid technology arrives first this winter in a plug-in Accord to meet California emissions standards. It will be followed by a standard hybrid.

When combined with a V-6 engine, the plug-in will deliver V-8 power and four-cylinder fuel economy. The system can run in electric-only mode, electric-and-gasoline for passing and acceleration, or gasoline-only for highway cruising. Cost is the main obstacle to carrying the system over to the Civic, Arai said.

More hybrids
The chief engineer downplayed the idea of equipping the Odyssey minivan with the two-motor hybrid system, saying the Odyssey likely would be too heavy to be a candidate for the technology. The nonhybrid versions of the Accord still are expected to outsell by far the electrified version, Arai said. The nonhybrids will get better fuel economy through the new engines and CVTs.

The 2.4-liter Accord is expected to be offered only with a CVT, while the 3.5-liter version comes with a stepped-gear automatic transmission for more immediate throttle response. The Accord coupe will offer a manual or automatic with the 3.5 liter, and a CVT only for the 2.4 liter. The Accord hybrid system will be teamed with a 2.0-liter engine and a lithium ion battery. Another first for Honda will be the use of a dual-clutch transmission in the new all-wheel-drive hybrid drivetrain earmarked for the Acura RLX and NSX.

The so-called Sport Hybrid SH-AWD -- short for Super Handling All-Wheel Drive -- system uses one motor in the powerplant, plus electric motors at both rear wheels to deliver independent torque for tighter cornering. The powerplant will be teamed with a seven-speed dual-clutch transmission, which Arai said was chosen over a traditional automatic for its sportier performance.

One other toy from Honda: an overhauled integrated motor assist, or stop-start, hybrid system for the next-generation Fit small car scheduled to arrive next year.

Read more: http://www.autonews.com/article/20120618/OEM06/306189956#ixzz1yNKvk9Nb
 
One question is when the Civic will get an Earth Dreams upgrade. Arai says Honda wants to put a new engine into the current-generation Civic, which debuted last year, but nothing has been decided. It's likely too late to add it this year, he says.

"That's one of the most important cars for us," Arai said. "If we tried to put it in this year, probably we would not make it in time. But we are in the process of preparing for it so that we will never, ever lose with this car."

:waiting:
 
:yeahthat:... the future of high hp cars is going to be limited.

CAFE standard would increase from a target of 35.5 mpg in 2016 to 54.5 mpg by 2025.
how many cars can you name with 54.5mpg now. Then imagine they have to average that across every vehicle they sell. Vehicle size, weight, power figures have to be addressed
 
I thought CAFE standards were averages across a manufacturers line, so like Toyotas big v8 SUVs are offset by the priuses
 
also i dont think its that big of a issue once the american driving public gets the idea out of their heads that they need 300+hp family sedans to make their daily commute

unless the obesity epidemic keeps growing, then maybe the extra power will be needed
 
yea - it has to average that across all the vehicles. So they could have something with 80mpg and another with 40mpg... with the goal of averaging 54.5 overall.
 
2012 base model is rated 39mpg highway. 30% would be 11.7 more = 50.7mpg

I think the only vehicle near that would be the hybrid Prius.
 
So looks like my engine fits into these Earth Green Standards.
 
The r18 comes with that standard.

I wonder if all their new blocks are also coming with slight oval shaped pistons.
 
There is no economy- and power-enhancing direct injection for any of the new Civic's three engines, 1.5-liter (Hybrid), 1.8-liter (DX, LX, EX), and 2.4-liter (Si) gasoline engines, despite increasing use by competitors such as Ford Motor Co.'s new Focus and the surging Hyundai Elantra. A new version of Mazda's Mazda3 compact, the car Honda often battles for sport-oriented drivers in the compact segment, will have direct injection when it’s launched this fall.

Fuel economy was very impressive. Let’s consider that the Civic lacks direct injection and still has a five-speed transmission. I was able to achieve 41.6 miles per gallon at 70 MPH with the cruise control and eco button on during a 107 mile jaunt.

With no direct injection or turbocharging, 140 horsepower, and five speeds not six in the manual and automatic transmissions, the 2012 Honda Civic has the simplest powertrain of the newest compact sedans. Nevertheless, it delivers exceptional fuel economy and plenty of power.
 
webby: Peugeot 508 diesel gets around 55mpg, golf 1.2tsi gets 41mpg, golf 1.6tdi bluemotion diesel gets 62mpg :)

p.s. those figures are combined (city/hwy)
 
I think they could try to fit a turbo into their 1.3 litre engine from the Insight and put it into the Civic. It would had plenty of torque and better fuel economy than the current 1.8 litre engine
 
....or maybe follow their earth dreams and build a i-vtec atkinson cicle and combine it with a powerful electric engine to get good acceleration. You cannot tho fit an atkinson cycle engine with a turbo if I'm not mistaken :(
 
the "gallon" measurement in the UK is actually different from the US rated "gallon". I didn't know much about it until a year ago or so myself.

the gallon in the United States = 3.79 Liters
the gallon in the UK is measured at 4.55 Liters. (a + 0.76 liter difference)

So comparing gas figures from those to US models isn't going to equal out.
Peugeot 508 diesel gets around 55mpg
- going from this example of yours

let's say you drove 550 miles and achieved 55mpg = 10 gallons of fuel....Difference being..

that's 37.9 liters for the US vehicle
that's 45.5 liters in the UK vehicle. (7.6 liters more, or 2 gallons extra gas)

so it's really like 550 miles traveled on 12 gallons of gas = 45.8mpg (US Rated)

still nothing to sneeze about.
 
Totally agree....I also didn't know the difference between US mpg and UK mpg. I would only like to tell some more facts which maybe would made a point on what I was saying:

1. Peugeot 508 is a Toyota Camry sized car and not a compact sedan (188.6 inch)

2.
You made me courious so I went and look at the official data: http://www.peugeot.co.uk/media/peugeot-508-prices-and-specifications-brochure.pdf
Page 9 - fuel consumption on the right there's a diesel/hybrid and in the middle a normal turbo diesel
The Hybrid diesel does a 78.7mpg combined
The turbo diesel does a 67.2 mpg combined
If I recalculate in US gallons it would be 65.5 (hybrid diesel) and 56 mpg (turbo diesel) combined ... respectively ... for a Toyota Camry sized car - which is better than a Prius and this is also the reason hybrids don't sell well in Europe :( :)

This diesel/hybrid thing is not bad at all. It combines a high torque turbo charged engine with a low consumption with an electric engine + it gets you AWD because the engine powers the front wheels and the electric engine the back pair of wheels.

We are lucky because more new technologies came into production in the last 10 years than in the last 70 years. I'm very curious how Honda's new engines will perform. The first earth dreams engine coming into production will be a 1.6 litre turbodiesel engine which will power the 9th Civic from next year - I think. I'm not sure wheather it will replace the current 2.2.
 
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