I really like these as my good buddy just bought the top of the line for his wife. We went and ripped on it and they are torquey and responsive. Still didn’t hold a candle with the si from a dig or a 20,40 but my car isn’t exactly stock. if I go into the market for another car to not mod, is low key and scoots the accord is at the top of my list. Their body style has since grown on me as well.