amsoil has said in many places not for LSD tranny. You didn't need a test to read about what you are putting in your tranny.
I have gone though this stuff with the SRT-4 neon with lsd and are using mobil 1 0-40 because it has heavy zinc and a bottle of limited slip from dodge. When I think about this honda LSD stuff might work well in the Dodge. Dodge never had there own tranny oil and it caused a lot of problems. I was actually happy to see Honda got the tranny oil perfect in a bottle for $7.88+ tax and if you fill from top zero fluid is wasted-you don't need to check the side hole to see if you got the right amount. By the way you don't know yet what damage you caused that alu and iron was in there for 4500 miles. Some amsiol is still in there, change MTF again very early. My first time I change the Honda tranny oil of course I did it perfect 100%
and it shifts like butter.
Oh and get a magnetic tranny drain plug the test said iron is in there.[/QUOTE]
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I'd be curious
@sunofwolf to hear of the "many places" Amsoil stated "not for LSD". Besides some of the post-2012 Amsoil MTF containers, can you name even one? So that's my first question.
If Amsoil made any public comments it was well after one of their major and more vocal dealers (me) brought it to their attention back in 2012.
Not many read a bottle's fine print anyway. What ppl look at are the compatibility charts, as
@webby did above. What those charts indicate (even Amsoil's own chart) is this: Amsoil MTF is the proper lubricant for Honda's 6-speed manual. Then the question becomes, have they changed the formulation in the last 10 years? We'll never know for sure... but I say yes, they were forced to. (They're also a private company... no way we'll ever find out)
But I agree with
@sunofwolf skepticism of Amsoil marketing. While I don't doubt its veracity, they are very selective in which ASTM tests they choose to highlight in their comparisons. Sometimes it's the 4-ball wear test (if they win) other times it's the Noack volatility (if they win) yet other times an oil's flow at cold temperatures...if they win. But Amsoil isn't alone in that practice.
I was an Amsoil dealer for years. Even spent a week at their Superior, WI plant learning about PAO's (polyalphaolephins) and esters from their head chemist (at the time Troy Paquette) and meeting all the big brass there, having lunch and drinks with them day and night. So I've had a set of experiences more extensive than most.
I wasn't impressed. The founder of the company, the fighter pilot known as "AJ" was getting on in years and was in the process of turning control of the company to his young son, Alan. AJ was great... rock solid, old school. One of those crusty old guys... but honest as the day is long. Insisted on making the best product possible.
On the other hand I could see that Alan had everything given to him... typical of someone who wouldn't work as hard in the future. (Sorry, am I stereotyping?) As soon as Alan had control of the company we started seeing changes to the product line, specifically by using less expensive ingredients (less esters, for example, if any at all) even going so far as introducing a new product line called OE, for original equipment.
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Let me pause for a minute. For most of their oils the warranty was for 25,000 miles of use or one year. Half that for "severe use". Their Signature Series was 35,000 or one year. Again, half that for severe use. Along comes a new "OE" line that was guaranteed for just 7,500 miles or 6 months. But the cost savings of OE were dramatic -- a whopping .15/per quart.
Like I said, I wasn't impressed.
That MTF incident was just the last straw in a long line of straws. Big things, little things, like their P.I.
They had a great product called P.I. for Performance Improver, probably the only detergent based combustion chamber/fuel cleaner. Tests showed it helped get better gas mileage too. Redline made a similar product as did Chevron, but those were alcohol based and not nearly as effective and had no data supporting claims about fuel efficiency. Problem was, P.I. was expensive, and the only way I could personally justify its use was to buy it by the gallon. Guess what happens when Alan takes over? The gallon size is discontinued.
And so it went.
Alan was in direct contrast to how AJ did things. An example: In my early days I wrote AJ criticizing the lack of Amsoil dominance in oil filtration. Instead, AJ (focused on oil) had started discounting the filters to increase sales. I was not happy. So I wrote the boss a 5 page letter explaining how the dealers and customers weren't interested in saving a few pennies... we all wanted a filter that could live up to the Amsoil name, the best filter money could buy.
It worked. About a year later they introduced a new line of Ea filters with a level of 'first pass' filtration that is best in class, second only to a bypass. By the way, Amsoil doesn't make their own filters... Donaldson (an old line company like WIX) makes the Amosoil filters. I digress.
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When I approached them with the the fact that their MTF was destroying my transmission, they were dismissive. When they wanted proof I sent them my Blackstone lab report. They wanted more. Fortunately I had kept a large sample of the used Amsoil MTF. This time I sent a sample to the chem lab owned by Amsoil. Still didn't work; they wanted more. They didn't think I was telling the truth... that their oil had been contaminated, and other lame excuses.
Then
@squiggy came along. He had done his own research, and taken pictures! Damning pictures of the ill-effects of Amsoil's MTF. I sent those in too. Nothing worked. In the end they claimed that it was a new transmission that was throwing off excessive wear metals only because it was new. "Give it time" they said. Right. "No f'n way I said... i'll lose the transmission". It was at that point I went back to Honda's MTF and the problems disappeared.
Suffice it to say I was very disappointed in Amsoil's reaction to our problems. If they treat their dealers like this, what are the chances of a regular customer getting justice?
I haven't purchased Amsoil since. And with Pennzoil's Ultra Platinum I don't need to.
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Like what I said about amsoil, they just want your money. Amsoil marketing is really vicious. They have good stuff, however. amsoil needs to update their info on the Bottle of tranny oil. False marketing their products is normal for amsoil! You could sue them for damages to tranny, save your recepts and empty bottle of amsoil! Amsoil trolls their products and the internet like flies on ****!
What do you think of Valvoline oil? That Blackstone test is actually very good. Glad someone ran the the tests. Anyone would be confused with all this misleading Lie's marketing coming from Amsoil. 
I find this stuff fascinating, don't know why either!
