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Turbo engine in a production car please....
 
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Engineer II-Race Team (Job Number: HPD00000M)
Honda Performance Development
Description

Honda Performance Development, Inc., a leader in motorsports racing is expanding our Pinnacle racing program in Santa Clarita, Ca. Seeking highly organized and detailed oriented Trackside Engineers to support Honda’s high performance race engines.

Requirements include BS degree in Mechanical/Electrical Engineering with emphasis in Internal Combustion Engines, or equivalent work experience; 3-5 years trackside experience is required preferably in endurance racing. A high degree of proficiency with engine management / data systems is expected, preferably with McLaren, Pi or Motec systems.

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HPD offers a competitive compensation & benefits program & an opportunity to further develop a career in motorsports racing.

Interested candidates should submit resume & salary history to:

http://corporate.honda.com/careers/find-a-job.aspx


An Equal Opportunity-Affirmative Action Employer. Women & minorities encouraged to apply.

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^^^ & driving the dragon - experience
 
Nomar06 said:
Turbo engine in a production car please....
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I just read a article the other day discussing how Honda has no plans to incorporate Turbo in their production engines again since they feel like they had the experience of doing it in the past and opted to remove it from production engines.

It does seem odd that every car maker on earth now pretty much has a turbo variant in their top end sport car packages and not Honda.

It basically boiled down to Turbo makes more trouble than it's worth. Also at the time I think Honda was one of the top gas mileage performers (no longer true) and that played a factor into turbo removal.

Although I have been reading a lot of "rumor mill" articles lately saying that 2013 is going to be the time they bring it back. We will see. I held off on buying a 2012, if that is true it will be great reason to jump back in on their 2013 line up if Honda remembers how to put turbo in their stock engines.
 
Opps... got a phone call and my edit button timed out...

I sorta think Honda got a little too comfortable with their popularity and slacked off a bit.

I think maybe it will light a fire under Honda's arse to bring it back to its racing roots in the production lineup. Maybe due to that gas mileage law suit and people disrespecting the 2012 Civic's "value". Either way it's a good thing for us.

I grew up in 90's with Honda/Acura being one of the cool cars. They have sort of just been riding that wave ever since, but not doing anything monumental too much.
 
the next round of engines is reported to be the earth dreams technology engines -
http://world.honda.com/news/2011/4111130Earth-Dreams-Technology/index.html

November 30, 2011 - Honda Motor Co., Ltd. today announced the outline for a revolutionary next-generation technology for automobiles called "Earth Dreams Technology."​

"Earth Dreams Technology" is a next generation set of technological advancements which greatly enhance both driving performance and fuel efficiency at a high level, using as its base advanced environmental technologies to pursue the joy of driving unique to Honda. It is a series of measures in which efficiency of internal combustion components including engine, and transmission, as well as electric-powered motor technology, is further improved.
Through its implementation first in the mini-vehicle N BOX and gradually onto other vehicle models, Honda aims to achieve top-of-industry fuel efficiency for every category within three years, while simultaneously setting a timeline of 2020 to reduce by 30% CO2 emissions for all products sold worldwide, relative to emission figures for 2000.
  • Inspiration of the "Earth Dreams Technology" name:
  • "Earth Dreams Technology" is an expression for a set of technologies which takes into account both our need to protect the environment and our desire to provide a joy of driving.
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Key features of “Earth Dreams Technology”

1.​
A gasoline engine which realizes top level driving performance and fuel efficiency.​
2.​
A compact diesel engine which realizes the world's lightest body*1, top-of-class*1acceleration performance and fuel efficiency.​
3.​
CVT which combines at a high level the fun of driving and fuel efficiency.​
4.​
A two-motor hybrid system which realizes top-of-industry efficiency*1.​
5.​
A high-efficiency, high output electric SH-AWD hybrid system which combines superior driving and environmental performance.​
6.​
A compact, high efficiency electric powertrain for EVs.​
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Summary of key features

1. Gasoline engine which achieves top-of-industry driving performance and fuel efficiency

  • By enhancing Honda's original VTEC (Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control System) technology to thoroughly improve thermal efficiency and minimize friction, a combination of high output and fuel efficiency was achieved. Further, a new engine series employing a new structure for higher expandability was developed.
  • By gradually renewing the engine starting with the mini-vehicle N BOX, Honda aims to utilize this technology to achieve top-of-industry output and fuel efficiency in every vehicle class within three years.
  • A wide range of engine classes including the 660cc, 1.3L, 1.5L, 1.8L, 2.0L, 2.4L, and 3.5L classes will feature the technology.
  • [ 660cc class engine ]
  • Employs DOHC and VTC (Variable Timing Control) to improve intake efficiency. Further, the compact combustion chamber realizes high thermal efficiency.
  • By shortening the bore pitch compared to the present engine models and reducing the thickness of the cylinder block and camshaft, engine weight is reduced by 15%*3 and fuel efficiency is improved by 10%*3.
  • [ 1.3 to 1.5L class engine ]
  • Employs VTC, direct injection technology and the Atkinson cycle using the DOHC, VTEC technologies as the base.
  • Extensive friction reduction measures are implemented.
  • [ 1.8 to 2.0L class engine ]
  • Employs direct injection technology and the Atkinson cycle using the DOHC, VTEC technologies as the base. Further, implementation of VTC and high-capacity EGR (Exhaust Gas Recirculation) to both the intake and exhaust ports realizes significantly reduced friction.
  • For the 2.0L class hybrid vehicle engines, use of an electric water pump eliminates the need for a belt in the auxiliary device and contributes to a reduction in friction. The VTC system allows fuel-efficient driving in various driving styles.
  • [ 2.4L class engine ]
  • Based on the DOHC and VTEC technologies, it employs VTC and direct injection technology and implements extensive friction reduction measures.
  • Standalone engine features 5%*3 improvements in fuel efficiency and output as well as a 10%*3 improvement in maximum torque compared to the previous engine.
  • [ 3.5L class engine ]
  • Employs new valve train mechanisms and direct injection technology in the SOHC, VTEC, VMC systems to improve by over 10%*3 of fuel efficiency and 5%*3 of output, relative to the present standalone engine model.
2. A compact diesel engine which realizes the world's lightest body*1, top-of-class*1 acceleration performance and fuel efficiency.

  • Through optimizing engine rigidity and combustion pressure, an aluminum open deck for the cylinder block was enabled in this top-of-industry lightweight*11.6L class diesel engine.
  • By downsizing from the present 2.2L engine and extensively reducing mechanical friction in each section, a friction level equivalent to present gasoline engine models was achieved.
  • Optimized thermal management system thanks to improvements in the cooling system reduces CO2 output by over 15%*3.
  • Employment of a compact, high-efficiency turbocharger and weight reduction in the reciprocating sliding section realizes a sporty and nimble ride.
3. CVT which combines at a high level the fun of driving and fuel efficiency.

  • Three CVT structures for mini, compact, and mid-size vehicle classes are newly developed to be adopted for a variety of engine models.
  • Reinforced belt is used to realize a structure for which a wide ratio range can be set.
  • Implementation of analysis technology over the contact behavior between the belt and pulley, and a high-precision hydraulic control system allows for continual optimization of hydraulic pressure to the pulley under a variety of driving conditions, contributing to improved fuel efficiency.
  • Use of an electronic oil pump to realize an idle stop system with high response contributes significantly to improved usability and fuel efficiency.
  • "G-Design Shift", a new coordinated control system for shift transmission, throttle, and hydraulic control responds quickly to driver demands and realizes an exhilarating, sporty drive with superior acceleration.
  • In the mini-vehicle class, a control mechanism and innovations in axle placement to reduce the engine size lengthwise, while a reduction in parts by simplifying the transmission casing structure helps realize a lightweight and compact body.
  • For the compact and mid-size classes, in addition to the reductions in size and weight, transmission efficiency was greatly improved by expanding the ratio range to achieve fuel efficiency improvements of 5%*3 and 10%*3 compared to the conventional CVT and comparable 5ATs, respectively.
4. A two-motor hybrid system which realizes top-of-industry efficiency*1.

  • A two-motor hybrid system featuring top-of-industry efficiency*1 enhancing driving performance and reduced CO2 emissions has been newly developed.
  • Special lithium-ion battery and charger is employed to enable mounting on plug-in hybrid vehicles.
  • Mid-sized vehicles equipped with this system are scheduled to begin production, starting with the plug-in hybrid model in 2012 and the hybrid model in 2013.
  • Three driving modes allowing for top-of-industry efficiency*1 for various driving environments were developed; an "EV driving mode" for urban environments, a "hybrid driving mode" using electricity generated by the motor, and a "engine-connected driving mode" where the engine and tires are mechanically connected during high-speed cruising.
  • Combination with a high-output 120kW motor allows for superior environmental performance and driving enjoyment.
5. A high-efficiency, high output electric SH-AWD hybrid system which combines superior driving and environmental performance.

  • A new hybrid system, electric SH-AWD, was developed for large-sized vehicles. By combining a 3.5L, V6 engine with this hybrid system, acceleration equivalent to V8 engines, as well as fuel efficiency equal or superior to in-line 4-cylinder engines were realized.
  • An electric 4WD system with independent 20kW+ motors on both sides for the rear wheels combines a 7-speed dual clutch transmission system with a built-in 30kW+ high-efficiency motor with the engine.
  • By mounting a high-performance lithium-ion battery and optimally controlling the front and rear motors, a new hybrid system with high fuel efficiency and output was realized.
  • By mounting two independent motors in the rear and employing a newly developed bilateral torque adjustable control system, incredibly tight cornering just like driving "on-the-rail" is realized. With this mechanism, Honda strives to provide a stable ride for various driving environments.
6. A compact, high efficiency electric powertrain for EVs.

  • Thanks to the high efficiency coaxial motor, low-friction gearbox and electric servo brake system, the system realizes the highest electrical consumption capability in the world*1, meeting the required AC consumption rate of 29kWh/100mile(116MPGe) as set forth by the United States.
  • A traveling distance of 123 miles*2(LA-4mode: unadjusted) or 210km*2(JC08 mode) was achieved thanks to the mounting of a high capacity lithium-ion battery.
  • When using the 240V U.S. electric source, a full charge takes less than 3 hours. (From the time a low-charge signal is lit till full charge)
  • By offering three driving modes (SPORT, NORMAL, ECON), the driver can freely select from a number of options to meet the needs of various driving styles such as power-saving or sporty drive.
*1​
Honda internal research (as of November 30, 2011)
*2​
Honda calculations
*3​
Compared to Honda products​
 
So they are going to make a compact diesel engine with turbo, but not a gas engine with turbo? I read that right? I know diesel burns more efficiently, perhaps this is their way around of getting performance and staying "green" at same time?

Either way it looks like they wanna go green earth friendly until 2020.

I guess after market turbo is going to continue for the next 8 years.
 
correct - diesel turbo is the only thing so far that they've publicly stated.
 
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