2017 Civic Si Revealed

Discussion in 'Honda Industry News' started by r18-power, Nov 16, 2016.

  1. Joe Liu

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    how is it that the base model got a jump of 40hp and the Si had basically nothing. that i don't get..
     
  2. JonnyRotten

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    IMO the 9th gen is better if you want to modify your car.
     
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    Is there people out there than won't mod a car?

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    I'm just saying that I think the 9th gen Si engine and suspension has more potential than the 10th gen Si
    Am I correct in hearing that the 10th gen Si has some type of adaptive suspension which would be more of a PITA to modify.
     
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    10th gen will have adaptive suspension. All it is really though is electronically adjusted shocks. I'm sure many people will ditch that for coilovers that have more/better adjustability. Especially if they want to change ride height.
     
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    Really? A 1.5 l? Why even bother getting a si?
     
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    There selling points seem to be the adaptive suspension, climate control, and heated seats. Though the torque curve being flat from 2100 rpm is mildly impressive and will give it some low end grunt.
     
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    Hondata will surely push that higher.
     
  11. tacthecat

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    If you don't have a 9th, or 8th, Si then the 10th Si is the best there is for a fun practical car. I'd be interested in adding it to our fleet if it came with Sensing but as it stands there is no compelling reason to upgrade.
     
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    Barely. The reason why the torque is that high is because of the turbo and the low compression ratio. A tiny motor will not make that much torque from factory just with the help of a turbo. The highest it might reach without over working the motor will probably be 6300ish rpm.
     
  13. FF MAYHEM

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    The Si should have came with the non turbo variant of the R's K20c1 ( PR4 )

    Very disappointed .... it's like 2001 all over again with Honda powertrain decisions a.k.a redheaded step child chassis ( no offence if you have red hair or stepchild or C all the above )
     
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    Not worth it... they had 4 years to look at their competition from Ford and Volkswagen and they learned nothing. The Si doesn't compete with the GTI and the ST anymore. It competes with the Elantra Sport (201hp) and the Sentra SR Turbo (198hp).
     
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    seems like people could easily up the boost on the non-si to match the si
     
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  17. Tak

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    Honda has decided to leave this competition to Civic Type R. That's the picture I've noticed.
     
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    Type R is one step above the Focus ST and VW GTI. The Focus RS and Golf R compete with that.

    As for the Si, it's now officially a slower VW GTI. Especially with 5700rpm redline.
     
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  19. homegrown

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    So much for the media embargo.
    Both Car and Driver and Motor Trend posted full reviews today.
     
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    That's pretty much my plan when I pick up the sport touring hatch whenever it finally gets built.
     
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