Rusted sunroof glass frame

[Janz3n]

So since I installed the new glass I've noticed it leaks when it rains. Finally took a close look yesterday and it appears to be coming from the right side, was wet on the plastic cover. Didn't have time to remove the cover. I'll be taking it off in preparation for the next rain.

My concern is how I would get the part warrantied if I didn't have the dealer install it.

 

[Dan Aubertin]

View attachment 57982 View attachment 57983 View attachment 57984 hey everyone,

I haven’t been on in a while because well life and all. I really haven’t had issues with my car until recently. I noticed the front of the sunroof glass frame is starting to rot. Needless to say I’m not happy. There seems to be quite a few of these on the Internet. I’m out of factory warranty, but the car is certified. I’m taking it to the dealer today to have it inspected and a claim submitted. If Honda doesn’t take care of it, I’m likely going to get rid of the car for another make all together. I love the car, but the customer service remains to be seen.

Was wondering if anyone else has ran into this. I’m attaching some pics as well.

 

[Dan Aubertin]

View attachment 57982 View attachment 57983 View attachment 57984 hey everyone,

I haven’t been on in a while because well life and all. I really haven’t had issues with my car until recently. I noticed the front of the sunroof glass frame is starting to rot. Needless to say I’m not happy. There seems to be quite a few of these on the Internet. I’m out of factory warranty, but the car is certified. I’m taking it to the dealer today to have it inspected and a claim submitted. If Honda doesn’t take care of it, I’m likely going to get rid of the car for another make all together. I love the car, but the customer service remains to be seen.

Was wondering if anyone else has ran into this. I’m attaching some pics as well.

Same here car has 52000km. Honda saying not covered. Had both rear fenders painted cause of rust after fighting with them even tho I had extended warranty on paint but wont cover sunroof. Never seen that on sunroof before .

 

[Dan Aubertin]

Same on mine 15 civic 52000km saying no warranty never Honda again .

 

[Dan Aubertin]

15 civic 52000km . Extended warrenty won't cover this . Bs.

 

[webby]

15 civic 52000km . Extended warrenty won't cover this . Bs.

Take it up with Honda corporate instead of the dealer. That’s how another members had theirs resolved.
Call Customer Care 1-800-999-1009

 

[Dan Aubertin]

Take it up with Honda corporate instead of the dealer. That’s how another members had theirs resolved.
Call Customer Care 1-800-999-1009

Yes that's my plan Tuesday. Now that I know I'm not the only one .thanks

 

[AlmosN8kd]

Sorry, bringing this thread back from the dead. But, I’m researching one problem and chasing things down led to another so I have a few questions. My sunroof has a little rust on the front center edge behind the seal but up until this week has operated flawlessly and hasn’t leaked despite the outer portion of the seal looking dried out.

So, rust aside, the main issue I’m having is that when attempting to close the sunroof, it doesn’t respond (you can hear the relay in the overhead click but no movement). As I researched this problem, not much was available from what I found; a few threads about cleaning tracks and greasing slides or to run a reset procedure. However, there was little to no information on whether or not either of these ever actually fixed the issue. Further reading lead me to threads on this topic which made me suspect that the two issues are related (such as the failure to operate is a result of corrosion of the motor or similar).

Anyhow, here are my questions:
1) does the reset procedure actually improve sunroof performance?
2) has anyone found a reliable fix for the click/no movement problem outside of roof replacement?
3) has anyone disassembled a sunroof assembly to attempt to repair a failed motor (I read the bits about removing the seal to clean & paint which had issues, I’m looking more at the motors and actuators)? Worthwhile effort or waste of time?
4) has anyone else that had rust issues on the sunroof also had the click/no movement issue?

 

[JesseFB6]

Man i was having this same issue alot with my sunroof last summer. Just about every other time i tried to close it it would just click and not move and i would close it manually (i know, and i would still open it once i managed to close it lol)

after doing the reset with the ignition and what not on about 10 different occasions its been working flawlessly lol

knock on wood

 

[AlmosN8kd]

Sorry, bringing this thread back from the dead. But, I’m researching one problem and chasing things down led to another so I have a few questions. My sunroof has a little rust on the front center edge behind the seal but up until this week has operated flawlessly and hasn’t leaked despite the outer portion of the seal looking dried out.

So, rust aside, the main issue I’m having is that when attempting to close the sunroof, it doesn’t respond (you can hear the relay in the overhead click but no movement). As I researched this problem, not much was available from what I found; a few threads about cleaning tracks and greasing slides or to run a reset procedure. However, there was little to no information on whether or not either of these ever actually fixed the issue. Further reading lead me to threads on this topic which made me suspect that the two issues are related (such as the failure to operate is a result of corrosion of the motor or similar).

Anyhow, here are my questions:
1) does the reset procedure actually improve sunroof performance?
2) has anyone found a reliable fix for the click/no movement problem outside of roof replacement?
3) has anyone disassembled a sunroof assembly to attempt to repair a failed motor (I read the bits about removing the seal to clean & paint which had issues, I’m looking more at the motors and actuators)? Worthwhile effort or waste of time?
4) has anyone else that had rust issues on the sunroof also had the click/no movement issue?

So, I performed the sunroof reset procedure a few weeks back; and, well, sunroof performance was unchanged. In fact, after it opened up, it took the better part of an hour while driving (and intermittently attempting to close) for it to actually close electrically. This leads me to believe that the issue is electrical such as dirty/corroded connections are not sending sufficient current to the actuator motors. Or, that the motors themselves have become corroded (or have carbon buildup from internal brushes) and require replacement.

Is there any trick to getting the headliner out of the sedan without damaging it?

I think that is my best bet, to remove the headliner so that I can fiddle with the sunroof mechanism in order to figure out what is actually failing and fix or replace it. When I dropped the headliner a couple of years ago to do my F&R dashcam install, I just left it resting on the head rest as there were quite a few things attached to it (wires and what not) and I didn't want to try to manipulate it in the interior and slide it out a door. Just curious if anyone has done this previously to where I can save myself a bunch of time and effort in trial and error.

 

[Janz3n]

So, I performed the sunroof reset procedure a few weeks back; and, well, sunroof performance was unchanged. In fact, after it opened up, it took the better part of an hour while driving (and intermittently attempting to close) for it to actually close electrically. This leads me to believe that the issue is electrical such as dirty/corroded connections are not sending sufficient current to the actuator motors. Or, that the motors themselves have become corroded (or have carbon buildup from internal brushes) and require replacement.

Is there any trick to getting the headliner out of the sedan without damaging it?

I think that is my best bet, to remove the headliner so that I can fiddle with the sunroof mechanism in order to figure out what is actually failing and fix or replace it. When I dropped the headliner a couple of years ago to do my F&R dashcam install, I just left it resting on the head rest as there were quite a few things attached to it (wires and what not) and I didn't want to try to manipulate it in the interior and slide it out a door. Just curious if anyone has done this previously to where I can save myself a bunch of time and effort in trial and error.

A lot of times in smaller cars with no rear hatch the windshield has to come out to get the headliner out. Not sure if you can get it out through the door.

 

[AlmosN8kd]

A lot of times in smaller cars with no rear hatch the windshield has to come out to get the headliner out. Not sure if you can get it out through the door.

Yeah, that's kind of what I'm afraid of. My thought at the moment is either to fully recline the front seats (or remove them) and then try to twist the headliner on its side to slide out a rear door. But, my car is 700miles away from me right now (it's a long story) so this isn't happening for a few weeks, at the earliest.

 

[Janz3n]

Yeah, that's kind of what I'm afraid of. My thought at the moment is either to fully recline the front seats (or remove them) and then try to twist the headliner on its side to slide out a rear door. But, my car is 700miles away from me right now (it's a long story) so this isn't happening for a few weeks, at the earliest.

Would make the diag a lot easier to get it out but still doable with it in.

 

[AlmosN8kd]

Would make the diag a lot easier to get it out but still doable with it in.

Yeah, if I knew what I was specifically going up into the inner roof for, I'd probably leave it in place. However, I want to remove it to aid in troubleshooting over time (plus time for parts delays, installation, and extended testing). So, I'm expecting the headliner to be out, once I get it out, for a few months at a minimum. I just looked through some old pics I took from my dash cam install (see dash cam thread), since the rake on the windshield and rear glass is so long (making the headliner fairly short in comparison to the interior's length), I think there may be enough room with the front seats out of the way to twist it and get it out the driver's side rear door (dropping it down on the passenger's side to avoid the steering wheel and column). And, I didn't see anything attached to the headliner itself (so, I must've confused that from memories of my Pilot's headliner which does have harnesses and hoses attached to the headliner) which means this will likely be a slightly easier job once I can get started on it.