Honda Approves Next Civic Type R

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Next Civic Type R Coming To Geneva Motor Show

Autocar reports that Honda has approved the next-generation of its much-lusted-after hot hatch and will make an announcement at the Paris Motor Show. The return of the Type R was speculated on last year in an Auto Express story, but this news puts Honda's imprimatur on the Type R's arrival. After the purported Paris announcement, the timeline is for a Geneva Motor Show reveal and an on-sale date in about a year from now.

If the report is to be believed, the next CTR will not have the naturally aspirated K20 VTEC engine pointing the way – that motor's lack of compliance with Euro emissions regulations being the reason the Civic Type R was discontinued. The Auto Express report predicts a 210-horsepower, 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder developed by Mugen – that would be up 12 horsepower from the 2010 model, but down 46 horses on the limited edition Type R tuned by Mugen that was "a tribute to the Honda K20" engine and part of the last model's run. It's said the 2013 will feature a stop/start system and a six-speed manual.

We'll be on the lookout for official news in Paris, and as with previous Type R models and the five-door bodystyle seen above, we don't expect this car to come to the U.S.

 

[vmcguy]

Bring it to the american market!!! Oooh turbo I4.

 

[KennyGS]

They'll probably want over $40K

 

[spdandpwr]

If you converted the currency to US dollars, the outgoing type r in Europe was sub-30 (by a decent margin), I'll try to find the article. I just think it's so funny that the "well educated professionals who've researched the **** out of the American market" think it is more profitable to produce a limited edition model for the European market than to make it a global vehicle across all of the markets they reside in. Or even, if they didn't want a global vehicle, the fact the remains that the US spends more money per capita on performance vehicles than any other market and runs less stringent emissions standards than Europe.

If Honda doesn't bring this type-r stateside, than I will seriously reconsider purchasing a Honda vehicle again as it seems that they don't know what's best for their loyalists...and don't say that the type-r wouldn't be worthwhile for Honda of America -- that's an absolute fallacy as it remains a staple within the European market (which is is wwwwaaaayyyyy smaller than the US market).

 

[MrsJrotax101]

 

[webby]

it would have to be the right car. Honda had trouble selling the 8th mugen in the US. There was one that sat at a dealership not far from me for 11 months without selling. I know some users on 8th picked them up from dealerships for thousands off the msrp because they weren't moving.

 

[siracergrl]

I think the biggest issue with the Mugen was that it offered nothing significantly different than the "normal" 8th gens minus a few bells and whistles styling wise. I think the Type R should be brought over here but not until this Civic gets paid off so we could buy the Type R lol

 

[siracergrl]

And Might I add to my last post, the Mugen cost much more for virtually nothing "superior"

 

[hotshot]

I would be all over a turbo 4 civic if they brought it here. I'm paying on this for 5 years and I seriously considered a GTI/GLI for a turbo 4. Next go around, it will be.

 

[bigbossin]

This makes me want to have an ek hatch with a built turbo k20

 

[Nomar06]

This makes me want to have an ek hatch with a built turbo k20

Yes please!!!


Type R in the US won't happen since the Mugen "flopped".

 

[mattsbobo]

That is a mighty sexy looking hatchback. It's a shame that it'll most likely have the same solid rear axle the previous one had.

 

[9thgizzyguy]

210 REALLY ? u would think it be more i mean cmon dat car would be like 35-40k in the us it would be a waste !!!
and yes since the mugen fiasco dat will never come here theyll have to give them away !
id rather keep my 12 si @ 201 for 3-4k add turbo kit get another 100hp at 1olbs all day everyday which is not even a 1/4 of the turbo kits potential !

 

[9thgizzyguy]

thnks guys u can keep ur 210 hp civic over there ill keep my 12 si thnks

i can picture som1 yankin 40k for dat car to roll out of the dealer and get beat by a 2000 em1 all motor !
if ur gonna make it turbo its gotta be in a whole different class not runnin wit the na"s ok dat car would be a joke here !

 

[spdandpwr]

lol, so why do you guys think this car is going to be so expensive?

The Mugen not selling is not a feasible gauge of a type-r civic's potential success! As someone mentioned, the Mugen was a flop because it offered very little benefit for such an insane price increase. Like why would I pay close to 7k over a standard si for a body kit, intake, and exhaust. Mugen body kits are always expensive because they are wind tunnel tested, the type-r wouldn't have to go through the sort of R&D and on such a small economies of scale, especially if the type-r platform was international.

 

[9thgizzyguy]

right so just imagine lets say its the typer r with a turbo ! geez itll deffinitly be over 30 dats for sure but with only 210 hp ???? my si is 201 just a 200 dollar intake will get me to dat hp lol its just not worth it to buy a car like dat with those numbers just to void the !@#$ out everything cause u know once u taste turbo u wanna go faster and faster so upgrades up the wazzuuu bro lol

like i said turbo is a whole different class on its own so if there gonna do a turboed type r it should be in th 250-280 hp range to give mazda mitsu and subaru a run for their $$$ not just make 1 to say hey guys we made 1 lol !

 

[spdandpwr]

The 2012 rdx, which is limited to North America, came with sh-awd, an ELS 450+ watt stereo, Navigation, multi-view backup camera, and a 2.3 turbo 4, and msrp'd for less than 40k. The fact that you think a high performance version of a vehicle that starts at 23k -- and that is shared internationally -- is going to go over 30 is beyond me.

 

[spdandpwr]

Regarding your second point, 10 extra hp might not be a lot, but the torque and the resulting improvements to the tranny will more than compensate. I wouldn't be surprised if it hits 0-60 half a second quicker. Plus you'll have a firmer suspension and a host of mechanical improvements (like the brakes).

 

[spdandpwr]

The current US Si is too diluted from it's original roots...the only car that compared was the fg2/fa5...I'm saying honda should keep the si as is for people who want more performance than an ex and introduce a type r for enthusiasts....everyone becomes happy that way. Since the civic is more practical than an s2000, it will sell. Heck, the s2000 sold pretty well and it was expensive (as compared to the civic) and impractical for DD use.

 

[9thgizzyguy]

lol, so why do you guys think this car is going to be so expensive?

The Mugen not selling is not a feasible gauge of a type-r civic's potential success! As someone mentioned, the Mugen was a flop because it offered very little benefit for such an insane price increase. Like why would I pay close to 7k over a standard si for a body kit, intake, and exhaust. Mugen body kits are always expensive because they are wind tunnel tested, the type-r wouldn't have to go through the sort of R&D and on such a small economies of scale, especially if the type-r platform was international.

right so just imagine lets say its the typer r with a turbo ! geez itll deffinitly be over 30 dats for sure but with only 210 hp ???? my si is 201 just a 200 dollar intake will get me to dat hp lol its just not worth it to buy a car like dat with those numbers just to void the !@#$ out everything cause u know once u taste turbo u wanna go faster and faster so upgrades up the wazzuuu bro lol

like i said turbo is a whole different class on its own so if there gonna do a turboed type r it should be in th 250-280 hp range to give mazda mitsu and subaru a run for their $$$ not just make 1 to say hey guys we made 1 lol !​