lemme tell you... my wife has always heard about me talking about understeer and the stuff we've done to her car to make it drive better. Last night, little bit of snow and wetness on the roads and she got to see what I meant by that. Trying to turn into a driveway and the steering wheel is basically useless. Hahahah best lesson ever. She did grab the E brake though and try to whip it at the last second but it definitely over rotated and we were pointing the wrong way. McDonalds parking lot entrance, nice and wide so no damage and no other cars around. Kinda funny though.